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	<title>Comments on: 17 (not really) Must-Have Free Apps for New Ubuntu Users</title>
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	<link>http://www.belutz.net/2007/05/08/17-not-really-must-have-free-apps-for-new-ubuntu-users/</link>
	<description>A piece of my mind</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: links for 2007-05-17 &#171; mriror</title>
		<link>http://www.belutz.net/2007/05/08/17-not-really-must-have-free-apps-for-new-ubuntu-users/#comment-2905</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2007-05-17 &#171; mriror</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 08:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Trifon</title>
		<link>http://www.belutz.net/2007/05/08/17-not-really-must-have-free-apps-for-new-ubuntu-users/#comment-2868</link>
		<dc:creator>Trifon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 16:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There does seem to be a problem with AllTray &#38; Mozilla Thunderbird, if I start it like "alltray mozilla-thunderbird" then I cannot drag messages to folders. Also, the -na option makes window title disappear at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There does seem to be a problem with AllTray &amp; Mozilla Thunderbird, if I start it like &#8220;alltray mozilla-thunderbird&#8221; then I cannot drag messages to folders. Also, the -na option makes window title disappear at all.</p>
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		<title>By: imtheface</title>
		<link>http://www.belutz.net/2007/05/08/17-not-really-must-have-free-apps-for-new-ubuntu-users/#comment-2586</link>
		<dc:creator>imtheface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 13:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just want to see whether my Firefox version already changed into 2.0.0.3? :P ... And don't use Automatic2 please!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just want to see whether my Firefox version already changed into 2.0.0.3? <img src='http://www.belutz.net/blog/smilies/yahoo_tongue.gif' alt='&#58;&#80;' class='wp-smiley' width='18' height='18' title='&#58;&#80;' /> &#8230; And don&#8217;t use Automatic2 please!</p>
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		<title>By: Belutz</title>
		<link>http://www.belutz.net/2007/05/08/17-not-really-must-have-free-apps-for-new-ubuntu-users/#comment-2583</link>
		<dc:creator>Belutz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 13:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Chister Edwards
That's why I review that list so it will not misleading the new users.

@ ak
I will update it, thanks

@ Corey Woodworth
I review that list because I can't give comment to Free Geekery post. So I review his list so new users knows what is not must-have from that list.
Maybe later I will recomend some application based on my experiences :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Chister Edwards<br />
That&#8217;s why I review that list so it will not misleading the new users.</p>
<p>@ ak<br />
I will update it, thanks</p>
<p>@ Corey Woodworth<br />
I review that list because I can&#8217;t give comment to Free Geekery post. So I review his list so new users knows what is not must-have from that list.<br />
Maybe later I will recomend some application based on my experiences <img src='http://www.belutz.net/blog/smilies/yahoo_smiley.gif' alt='&#58;&#41;' class='wp-smiley' width='18' height='18' title='&#58;&#41;' /></p>
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		<title>By: Scott K</title>
		<link>http://www.belutz.net/2007/05/08/17-not-really-must-have-free-apps-for-new-ubuntu-users/#comment-2578</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 11:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weeber:  I've looked at the source for the current release of automatix.  I don't have to run it to know that sigkilling dpkg is a bad thing.  One can say that automatix doesn't do X bad thing they used to do and be correct, but it appears to me based on source inspection that it doesn't really work with or respect the packaging system.  Additionally, it does install files in non-standard locations.  Just because it worked for you, doesn't make it a well designed system.  You won't really know if it worked for you until after your next upgrade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weeber:  I&#8217;ve looked at the source for the current release of automatix.  I don&#8217;t have to run it to know that sigkilling dpkg is a bad thing.  One can say that automatix doesn&#8217;t do X bad thing they used to do and be correct, but it appears to me based on source inspection that it doesn&#8217;t really work with or respect the packaging system.  Additionally, it does install files in non-standard locations.  Just because it worked for you, doesn&#8217;t make it a well designed system.  You won&#8217;t really know if it worked for you until after your next upgrade.</p>
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		<title>By: Corey Woodworth</title>
		<link>http://www.belutz.net/2007/05/08/17-not-really-must-have-free-apps-for-new-ubuntu-users/#comment-2550</link>
		<dc:creator>Corey Woodworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 06:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is kinda a wierd list:
This is cool but I don't use or need it
This is cool but I havn't even tried it
This is cool but its already installed
This is cool but it'll prolly b0rk your system
I'm just saying, why not recommend software you actually recommend?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is kinda a wierd list:<br />
This is cool but I don&#8217;t use or need it<br />
This is cool but I havn&#8217;t even tried it<br />
This is cool but its already installed<br />
This is cool but it&#8217;ll prolly b0rk your system<br />
I&#8217;m just saying, why not recommend software you actually recommend?</p>
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		<title>By: Weeber</title>
		<link>http://www.belutz.net/2007/05/08/17-not-really-must-have-free-apps-for-new-ubuntu-users/#comment-2529</link>
		<dc:creator>Weeber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 02:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About automatix2 I think that the people is talking too much about that project in a bad way without even -it seems- tested it for themselfs. 

Automatix only installs things that are in universe and third party repos, they don't own any repo. Sometimes I check what repos they've added to my sources.list and I realize that the only add ONE, you know why? because I have all universe repos enabled.

They've made mistakes in the past, I don't know what nor when: the popular opinion says that it have been that way, but please don't repeat the "mess your system" thing again and again without even tested the program in his latest version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About automatix2 I think that the people is talking too much about that project in a bad way without even -it seems- tested it for themselfs. </p>
<p>Automatix only installs things that are in universe and third party repos, they don&#8217;t own any repo. Sometimes I check what repos they&#8217;ve added to my sources.list and I realize that the only add ONE, you know why? because I have all universe repos enabled.</p>
<p>They&#8217;ve made mistakes in the past, I don&#8217;t know what nor when: the popular opinion says that it have been that way, but please don&#8217;t repeat the &#8220;mess your system&#8221; thing again and again without even tested the program in his latest version.</p>
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		<title>By: ak</title>
		<link>http://www.belutz.net/2007/05/08/17-not-really-must-have-free-apps-for-new-ubuntu-users/#comment-2524</link>
		<dc:creator>ak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 00:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree on Brasero (d'oh forgot to install that one on my Feisty). Its better than Gnome Baker.

For media player I'm currently using Banshee (I'm a gtk+ fan but yeah, Amarok is hot). Its mono-based, but mono is default on Feisty anyway.

About Automatix, yes I think that should never be used. That's my oppinion anyway. I prefer getting my stuffs manually from the official repos when available.

By the way, I have a small suggestion, why not add the package name of the applications. That way users will know how to install the listed apps through Synaptic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree on Brasero (d&#8217;oh forgot to install that one on my Feisty). Its better than Gnome Baker.</p>
<p>For media player I&#8217;m currently using Banshee (I&#8217;m a gtk+ fan but yeah, Amarok is hot). Its mono-based, but mono is default on Feisty anyway.</p>
<p>About Automatix, yes I think that should never be used. That&#8217;s my oppinion anyway. I prefer getting my stuffs manually from the official repos when available.</p>
<p>By the way, I have a small suggestion, why not add the package name of the applications. That way users will know how to install the listed apps through Synaptic.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.belutz.net/2007/05/08/17-not-really-must-have-free-apps-for-new-ubuntu-users/#comment-2520</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 22:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2) forget about amaroK and get quod libet already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2) forget about amaroK and get quod libet already.</p>
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		<title>By: Christer Edwards</title>
		<link>http://www.belutz.net/2007/05/08/17-not-really-must-have-free-apps-for-new-ubuntu-users/#comment-2517</link>
		<dc:creator>Christer Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 21:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got the same email from that website asking if I would review their list.  They just want links built up to their site...  I didn't review the list because I thought it was a crappy list.  Automatix should never be used.  Or, at least don't expect any support from anyone but them if you do use it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got the same email from that website asking if I would review their list.  They just want links built up to their site&#8230;  I didn&#8217;t review the list because I thought it was a crappy list.  Automatix should never be used.  Or, at least don&#8217;t expect any support from anyone but them if you do use it.</p>
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